Love these packs. Since the tilesets are built for Tileda 2x2 system, they don't play so nice with Godot, unfortunately. But it's not too bad to work in Tiled, import to Godot, then make tweaks as needed.
For auto tiles, Godot expects every tile to have a base terrain type. Tiled, however, doesn't care what terrain an individual tile is, only what terrain it is adjacent to. Because of this, you have to jump through a lot of very awkward hoops to set these sheets up to work with Godot's auto tiles and terrain system. And even when you get it working, it's a little buggy. This is a Godot issue. But most other sprite packs I've downloaded have a more Godot-friendly layout (albeit significantly less detailed than what you provide).
The difference is more obvious when you go to draw terrain. In Tiled (and maybe other editors) you're drawing terrain at the corner of 4 tiles. In Godot, you're drawing terrain on single tiles.
I believe you are describing a single-tile wang system, but the smallest area you can draw with my autotiles is 2x2 tiles. I'll never make a single-tile system because it requires a ridiculous number of tiles:
This is an unnecessary level of control, in my opinion. My tilesets are primarily inspired by Secret of Mana and Trials of Mana, which didn't use this system.
You can certainly use my tilesets just fine with Godot, you just won't be able to paint with a single-tile terrain brush (RPG Maker users have a similar caveat). I recommend using Tiled, then importing to Godot, or just placing your tiles by hand within Godot, as you won't find many creators going to these lengths for an autotile.
Sorry, I didn't get a chance to come back to this last night. But yes, Godot expects you to interact with a single tile at a time instead of where 4 tiles meet. And you are correct, it is an insane number of tiles if you want a full set -- 256 tiles are needed just to connect 2 terrain types and that number grows exponentially for every new terrain type. That said, most of the layouts are only about 47 tiles and that gives you more than enough control. Something like this:
But like I said before, this is a Godot issue. Definitely not a Seliel issue. You are providing a crazy amount of tile combinations. A full Wang set is already more than enough. And it's not a big deal to work inside of Tiled then bring the assets back to Godot. I just figured it was worth mentioning since other folks might also want this for Godot.
Great asset but a small usability issue for me... Is it possible for the tree wall to be done without the baked in floor? Somewhat like the canopy only version but with trunks.
That's not something I plan to do, but the grass and dirt use unique colors, so you can use the magic wand tool in any image editor (I use Aseprite) to select those colors and just delete them.
I saw on your patreon that you are updating these forest assets. We are using them in a game and are gearing up to build the map. Do you have a rough idea on the completion date for the updates? Much appreciated.
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Hey Seliel,
would you be willing to hand out a few of these as rewards for the 350 participant jam I am hosting? Panic Horror Jam - itch.io
DM me at charleytheposman on Discord--yeah, I forgot a T when I created my Discord account XD
Love these packs. Since the tilesets are built for
Tileda 2x2 system, they don't play so nice with Godot, unfortunately. But it's not too bad to work in Tiled, import to Godot, then make tweaks as needed.They aren't "built for Tiled", there's no such thing. They're just laid out intuitively, and Tiled is a good adaptable program.
How exactly do my tilesets not play nice with Godot? As far as I'm aware, Godot doesn't have tileset layout requirements.
For auto tiles, Godot expects every tile to have a base terrain type. Tiled, however, doesn't care what terrain an individual tile is, only what terrain it is adjacent to. Because of this, you have to jump through a lot of very awkward hoops to set these sheets up to work with Godot's auto tiles and terrain system. And even when you get it working, it's a little buggy. This is a Godot issue. But most other sprite packs I've downloaded have a more Godot-friendly layout (albeit significantly less detailed than what you provide).
The difference is more obvious when you go to draw terrain. In Tiled (and maybe other editors) you're drawing terrain at the corner of 4 tiles. In Godot, you're drawing terrain on single tiles.
I believe you are describing a single-tile wang system, but the smallest area you can draw with my autotiles is 2x2 tiles. I'll never make a single-tile system because it requires a ridiculous number of tiles:
This is an unnecessary level of control, in my opinion. My tilesets are primarily inspired by Secret of Mana and Trials of Mana, which didn't use this system.
You can certainly use my tilesets just fine with Godot, you just won't be able to paint with a single-tile terrain brush (RPG Maker users have a similar caveat). I recommend using Tiled, then importing to Godot, or just placing your tiles by hand within Godot, as you won't find many creators going to these lengths for an autotile.
Sorry, I didn't get a chance to come back to this last night. But yes, Godot expects you to interact with a single tile at a time instead of where 4 tiles meet. And you are correct, it is an insane number of tiles if you want a full set -- 256 tiles are needed just to connect 2 terrain types and that number grows exponentially for every new terrain type. That said, most of the layouts are only about 47 tiles and that gives you more than enough control. Something like this:
But like I said before, this is a Godot issue. Definitely not a Seliel issue. You are providing a crazy amount of tile combinations. A full Wang set is already more than enough. And it's not a big deal to work inside of Tiled then bring the assets back to Godot. I just figured it was worth mentioning since other folks might also want this for Godot.
license to use? videogame commercial?
There's a link to the Mana Seed User License at the bottom of EVERY product page. You didn't need to post this question in seven different places.
Hi sprkem, awesome bundle! Can we use your free bundle in commercial projects? It would be nice to know :)
Yes, you may use the free version commercially 👍
Great asset but a small usability issue for me... Is it possible for the tree wall to be done without the baked in floor? Somewhat like the canopy only version but with trunks.
The same would be useful across the bundle if at all possible!
That's not something I plan to do, but the grass and dirt use unique colors, so you can use the magic wand tool in any image editor (I use Aseprite) to select those colors and just delete them.
Hey Seliel,
I saw on your patreon that you are updating these forest assets. We are using them in a game and are gearing up to build the map. Do you have a rough idea on the completion date for the updates? Much appreciated.
Tentatively within in the next 3-4 weeks. That's the goal, at least 🤷♀️